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Which Sunpak Interface Module for D100?

Which Sunpak Interface Module for D100?

April 28, 2002

I'm trying to get everything ready for my upcoming D100 purchase (pending DPReview approving). I accept a Sunpak Automobile 555 "potato masher" flash and want to choice upward the Defended Interface Module for use with the D100. The quandary is, in that location are three IMs bachelor from Sunpak:

NE-1AF Nikon TTL Autofocus
NE-second Nikon TTL reg & AF (no AF assist) + F4
NE-3D Nikon TTL F3 simply

B&H Photo says the NE1-AF is for cameras "with Focus Assist Beam" and the NE-2nd is for cameras "without Focus Assist Beam". Any idea which matches the purported features of the D100?

Cheers!

• Dave

Anthony • Veteran Member • Posts: 8,933

Re: Which Sunpak Interface Module for D100?

It would be the NE-1AF. I take a Sunpak 555 and a Nikon N80 and a Fuji S1pro (based on the Nikon N65 body). The NE-1AF is what works with the N80, upon which the D100 is primarily based.

The NE-3D for the F3 has a dissimilar connector. And if you look at a photo of the D100, yous can run across that it has an AF help low-cal between the grip and the pentaprism. Ergo, the NE-1AF would exist the correct choice for the AF assistance reason likewise.

Actually, the module works well, because it puts out a hard to run into virtually infrared light. Information technology's much ameliorate than the bright white light used by the camera (N80/N65/S1pro) to focus in dim lighting, and when the flash is attached and on, it disconnects the bright focus light on the photographic camera trunk.

Anthony

Dave Dugal wrote:

I'm trying to become everything gear up for my upcoming D100 buy
(pending DPReview approval). I have a Sunpak Auto 555 "potato
masher" flash and desire to pick upward the Dedicated Interface Module
for use with the D100. The quandary is, in that location are three IMs
available from Sunpak:

NE-1AF Nikon TTL Autofocus
NE-2D Nikon TTL reg & AF (no AF assist) + F4
NE-3D Nikon TTL F3 simply

B&H Photo says the NE1-AF is for cameras "with Focus Assist Beam"
and the NE-2D is for cameras "without Focus Assist Axle". Any idea
which matches the purported features of the D100?

Thank you!

• Dave

OP Dave Dugal • Regular Member • Posts: 113

Re: Which Sunpak Interface Module for D100?

In answer to Anthony • April 29, 2002

This is great news! Thank you Anthony.

Of course it WOULD have to be the nigh expensive Interface Module that Sunpak sells!

• Dave

Anthony wrote:

Information technology would be the NE-1AF. I have a Sunpak 555 and a Nikon N80 and a
Fuji S1pro (based on the Nikon N65 body). The NE-1AF is what works
with the N80, upon which the D100 is primarily based.

The NE-3D for the F3 has a different connector. And if you look at
a photo of the D100, you can see that it has an AF assist light
between the grip and the pentaprism. Ergo, the NE-1AF would exist the
right choice for the AF assist reason equally well.

Actually, the module works well, considering information technology puts out a hard to see
near infrared light. It's much better than the vivid white light
used by the photographic camera (N80/N65/S1pro) to focus in dim lighting, and
when the flash is attached and on, it disconnects the bright focus
lite on the photographic camera body.

Re: Which Sunpak Interface Module for D100?

NO, NO, NO!!!!! Don't go buy it unless you lot can return information technology.

If the flash is like the D1 series, which I presume it will be. (The SB80DX was announced at the aforementioned time as the D100)

NO 3rd party flash, I REPEAT, NO third party flash will piece of work in TTL, DTTL or any style if it has the 3 extra pins. ONLY NIKON and for D-TTL but Nikon DX series Nikon flashes. Third party flashes won't fire in ANY MODE period. You cannot presume that if a film camera works with a flash and it'south the basis for the Digital camera that it will piece of work. It will not. I have tried every SUNPAK with every module made past them, it doesn't work. The Nikon flashes don't work the same on all their film bodies and work even differently with the digital bodies.

Add together a Nikon DX serial flash to your shopping list forth with your D100 or forget wink photography except with a one pin manual flash. Anything with the 3 extra pins for Nikon TTL will not work. The camera locks up tight and the shutter release won't fire.

Dave Dugal wrote:
This is great news! Thanks Anthony.

Of course it WOULD take to be the about expensive Interface Module
that Sunpak sells!

• Dave

Anthony wrote:

It would exist the NE-1AF. I accept a Sunpak 555 and a Nikon N80 and a
Fuji S1pro (based on the Nikon N65 body). The NE-1AF is what works
with the N80, upon which the D100 is primarily based.

The NE-3D for the F3 has a different connector. And if you look at
a photograph of the D100, you tin see that it has an AF assist lite
betwixt the grip and the pentaprism. Ergo, the NE-1AF would be the
correct choice for the AF assist reason likewise.

Actually, the module works well, considering it puts out a hard to see
near infrared light. It'due south much improve than the bright white light
used by the photographic camera (N80/N65/S1pro) to focus in dim lighting, and
when the flash is fastened and on, information technology disconnects the bright focus
light on the camera torso.

Philip K • Contributing Fellow member • Posts: 564

Re: Which Sunpak Interface Module for D100?

christopher wrote:

Anything with the 3 extra pins for Nikon TTL will not piece of work.
The camera locks upwardly tight and the shutter release won't fire.

Christopher

Do you own a D1, D1H, or D1X AND a 3rd party wink? Or are you quoting other posts?

I know personally that a D1X volition fire a SB28 for non-TTL just (or any other Nikon flash to supports not-TTL manner). These units take the 3 extra pins. On other sites I take heard people are able to use Metz in linked simply non-TTL mode but I can non personally adjure to it.

I tin non understand how older Nikon units work and 3rd party locks up the shutter in linked non-TTL mode.

So I am politely request you if you lot own such a organisation or are repeating others?

Thank you.

Philip

Re: Which Sunpak Interface Module for D100?

In reply to Philip K • Apr 29, 2002

Phillip,

I do have the Sunpak 12x ring light with the Nikon AF module (for my F5), and it would not fifty-fifty fire in the manual or A mode with the D1h. I have to go go the "standard" module which has just 1 pivot, to become it to burn down in the manual mode (and A mode as well, but useless for a band wink).

Negative people tin presume that Nikon played a fox on third-political party flashes past making information technology unfireable even in transmission mode to get them to buy the DX flashes (which maybe WHY they came out with this new applied science any way). I will get out it at that.

The bespeak is that regardless of what, they volition not burn down in the TTL way on the D1h, and presumably D100 likewise.

James

Philip K wrote:

Christopher

Do you own a D1, D1H, or D1X AND a 3rd party flash? Or are y'all
quoting other posts?

I know personally that a D1X will fire a SB28 for not-TTL just (or
any other Nikon flash to supports non-TTL mode). These units have
the 3 extra pins. On other sites I have heard people are able to
utilise Metz in linked but non-TTL fashion but I tin can non personally attest
to it.

I can not understand how older Nikon units work and 3rd party locks
up the shutter in linked non-TTL manner.

And so I am politely request you if you own such a arrangement or are
repeating others?

Thanks.

Philip

Re: Which Sunpak Interface Module for D100?

In reply to Philip Chiliad • Apr 29, 2002

Yes, I own a D1X and personally went into multiple camera stores and tried these brands on MY camera and they don't work. Yes you are right and as I said the Nikon flashes (your SB28) practise work.

I shot over 4500 not flash pictures and about 200 wink pictures with an old manual vivtar until I got me SB80DX. I wanted very badly to have one, they just didn't work, any of them so I could take shot flash pictures while I waited for the SB80DX, they but don't. Nikon SB28 yes, but not 3rd party.

Philip K wrote:

christopher wrote:

Anything with the iii extra pins for Nikon TTL will not work.
The camera locks upwards tight and the shutter release won't fire.

Christopher

Do y'all own a D1, D1H, or D1X AND a 3rd party flash? Or are yous
quoting other posts?

I know personally that a D1X will fire a SB28 for non-TTL only (or
any other Nikon flash to supports non-TTL mode). These units have
the 3 extra pins. On other sites I take heard people are able to
use Metz in linked but non-TTL mode merely I tin not personally attest
to it.

I can not understand how older Nikon units work and 3rd party locks
up the shutter in linked non-TTL mode.

And so I am politely asking you if you own such a arrangement or are
repeating others?

Thanks.

Philip

Re: Which Sunpak Interface Module for D100?

Thank you James. Like I said, they don't work. I tried them on my ain camera, a D1X.

Zoe James wrote:
Phillip,

I do accept the Sunpak 12x ring light with the Nikon AF module (for
my F5), and it would not even fire in the manual or A style with the
D1h. I have to go get the "standard" module which has but 1 pin,
to get it to burn in the manual mode (and A style also, merely useless
for a ring flash).

Negative people can assume that Nikon played a trick on tertiary-party
flashes by making it unfireable fifty-fifty in transmission mode to get them to
buy the DX flashes (which maybe WHY they came out with this new
engineering science whatever way). I volition leave it at that.

The point is that regardless of what, they will non fire in the TTL
mode on the D1h, and presumably D100 also.

James

Philip Thou wrote:

Christopher

Do yous own a D1, D1H, or D1X AND a third party flash? Or are yous
quoting other posts?

I know personally that a D1X volition burn down a SB28 for non-TTL merely (or
any other Nikon flash to supports not-TTL mode). These units have
the 3 extra pins. On other sites I have heard people are able to
use Metz in linked but not-TTL mode but I tin not personally attest
to information technology.

I can non empathise how older Nikon units piece of work and 3rd party locks
up the shutter in linked non-TTL mode.

So I am politely request you if you own such a system or are
repeating others?

Thanks.

Philip

Philip K • Contributing Fellow member • Posts: 564

Cheers

christopher wrote:

Aye, I own a D1X and personally went into multiple camera stores
and tried these brands on MY camera and they don't work. Yeah you lot
are right and as I said the Nikon flashes (your SB28) do work.
I shot over 4500 non flash pictures and almost 200 flash pictures
with an quondam manual vivtar until I got me SB80DX. I wanted very
badly to accept 1, they but didn't work, whatever of them and so I could
have shot flash pictures while I waited for the SB80DX, they only
don't. Nikon SB28 yes, but non 3rd political party.

Thank you for your respond.

These forums a great for information. However, you take to exist careful as some people will repeat what they heard elsewhere. They are well meaning but it can cause rumors to spread.

I will simply reply if I accept first hand cognition. That is why didn't respond to the Sunpak question and that was the reason for my question.

Thanks again!

Philip

OP Dave Dugal • Regular Member • Posts: 113

Re: Which Sunpak Interface Module for D100?

Cheers for all the replies.

I have to say, this is a flake of bad news. I'grand fairly fond of my Sunpak 555 and am not willing to give it up only because a camera manufacturer decides to go the proprietary route.

Is information technology simply a thing of Sunpak not coming out with a compatible IM, or are you lot of the opinion that Nikon is keeping required info individual (a la Microsoft)?

I plan on giving Nikon several $ane,000 of my dispensable income over the next little while. I'd hate to make such a long term investment in a company's products if they're going to give tertiary parties a hard time.

In a related vein, does/will the D100 have a Flash Sync port? If I'm reduced to two-pivot flash sync, I might as well just utilize a sync cable (unless I have a fundamental misunderstanding).

Thank you!

• Dave

christopher wrote:

NO, NO, NO!!!!! Don't go purchase it unless you can render it.

If the wink is like the D1 series, which I presume it will exist.
(The SB80DX was announced at the same time every bit the D100)
NO 3rd party flash, I REPEAT, NO 3rd political party wink will piece of work in TTL,
DTTL or whatsoever manner if information technology has the 3 extra pins. ONLY NIKON and for
D-TTL merely Nikon DX series Nikon flashes. Tertiary party flashes
won't fire in Whatsoever MODE catamenia. You cannot assume that if a motion-picture show
camera works with a flash and it's the basis for the Digital camera
that it will work. It will not. I have tried every SUNPAK with
every module made by them, it doesn't work. The Nikon flashes don't
work the same on all their film bodies and work even differently
with the digital bodies.

Add a Nikon DX serial flash to your shopping list along with your
D100 or forget flash photography except with a i pin manual
wink. Anything with the iii extra pins for Nikon TTL will non work.
The photographic camera locks upward tight and the shutter release won't fire.

Re: Which Sunpak Interface Module for D100?

No it doesn't have 1,merely Nikon makes module that can provide that function. I forget the exact model number, but it has been discussed here ofttimes.

Dave Dugal wrote:
Thanks for all the replies.

I have to say, this is a scrap of bad news. I'm fairly addicted of my
Sunpak 555 and am not willing to requite it upwardly just because a camera
manufacturer decides to go the proprietary route.

Is it merely a matter of Sunpak not coming out with a compatible IM,
or are you of the opinion that Nikon is keeping required info
private (a la Microsoft)?

I programme on giving Nikon several $1,000 of my disposable income over
the side by side little while. I'd hate to make such a long term
investment in a company'due south products if they're going to give tertiary
parties a hard time.

In a related vein, does/will the D100 have a Flash Sync port? If
I'thou reduced to two-pin flash sync, I might as well just use a sync
cablevision (unless I have a key misunderstanding).

Thanks!

• Dave

christopher wrote:

NO, NO, NO!!!!! Don't become purchase information technology unless you tin can return it.

If the flash is like the D1 series, which I assume information technology will exist.
(The SB80DX was announced at the same time equally the D100)
NO 3rd party flash, I REPEAT, NO 3rd political party flash will work in TTL,
DTTL or any way if information technology has the iii actress pins. ONLY NIKON and for
D-TTL only Nikon DX serial Nikon flashes. Third party flashes
won't fire in Whatsoever MODE period. You cannot presume that if a picture
photographic camera works with a flash and it's the ground for the Digital photographic camera
that it will work. Information technology will not. I have tried every SUNPAK with
every module fabricated by them, it doesn't work. The Nikon flashes don't
piece of work the same on all their film bodies and work even differently
with the digital bodies.

Add a Nikon DX series flash to your shopping list along with your
D100 or forget wink photography except with a one pin manual
flash. Anything with the three extra pins for Nikon TTL will not work.
The camera locks up tight and the shutter release won't burn down.

OP Dave Dugal • Regular Member • Posts: 113

Re: Which Sunpak Interface Module for D100?

I did several searches and found that it's the Nikon AS-xv Sync Concluding Adapter (Hot Shoe-PC).

Would this be better to apply than the Sunpak STANDARD Dedicated Module (STD-1D)? They're well-nigh the same toll, and supposedly well-nigh the same intelligence.

• Dave

christopher wrote:
No it doesn't take one,only Nikon makes module that can provide that
office. I forget the verbal model number, but it has been
discussed here often.

Dave Dugal wrote:

In a related vein, does/volition the D100 have a Flash Sync port? If
I'm reduced to two-pin wink sync, I might besides just use a sync
cable (unless I accept a primal misunderstanding).

Re: Which Sunpak Interface Module for D100?

That'southward difficult to answer. Still if they are the same price, I would cull the Nikon. At to the lowest degree if you decided to get a Nikon flash in the time to come, you would be guaranteed to have it work with it. Sunpak could just guarantee Sunpak. Your selection : )

Dave Dugal wrote:
I did several searches and found that information technology'due south the Nikon AS-15 Sync
Terminal Adapter (Hot Shoe-PC).

Would this exist amend to employ than the Sunpak STANDARD Defended
Module (STD-1D)? They're about the same price, and supposedly
virtually the same intelligence.

• Dave

christopher wrote:
No it doesn't take ane,just Nikon makes module that tin provide that
function. I forget the verbal model number, simply it has been
discussed here frequently.

Dave Dugal wrote:

In a related vein, does/will the D100 have a Wink Sync port? If
I'one thousand reduced to ii-pin flash sync, I might also just use a sync
cable (unless I accept a primal misunderstanding).

OP Dave Dugal • Regular Fellow member • Posts: 113

Response from Sunpak Client Service

From: "tocadamerica"

Field of study: RE: Sunpak 555 Interface Module for Nikon D1x and D100 digital cameras?
Appointment: Friday, 17 May 2002 10:44:fifty -0400

At this time, our interface modules (NE-2D; NE-1AF) volition not dedicate to
digital cameras. The factory is aware of this and are trying to remedy
this. Nosotros hope that, by the finish of the yr, we volition accept interface modules
available which volition dedicate to digital cameras.

Give thanks you lot,

ToCAD America
Customer Service

Ron Frank • Senior Member • Posts: 1,861

Re: Response from Sunpak Customer Service

Don't experience too bad.

My Nikon SB25 does NOT TTL with the D1x (grumble/gripe), and I have a 622 pro, and a vivitar as well that ALL will non work either.

Maybe something in a metz?

The adept news is this hardly makes the flash useless. A good flash meter is better than any TTL option that I've found. Unfortunately i may not e'er have time to meter off camera....

Ron

Dave Dugal wrote:

From: "tocadamerica"
Subject field: RE: Sunpak 555 Interface Module for Nikon D1x and D100
digital cameras?
Engagement: Fri, 17 May 2002 10:44:50 -0400

At this time, our interface modules (NE-2D; NE-1AF) will not
dedicate to
digital cameras. The factory is aware of this and are trying to
remedy
this. We hope that, past the end of the year, nosotros will have interface
modules
available which will dedicate to digital cameras.

Cheers,

ToCAD America
Client Service

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